Dawn of the Realistic Fake tokidoki Bags
I have sucky news: we all have to start paying much closer attention when shopping for tokidoki bags online now. The realistic fakes are finally here. 
There is good news though, which is that if you examine the new batch of realistic fakes closely, you can still tell them apart from real bags. This post will show you how to do just that (I will also be adding this info into the Guide to tokidoki Fakes).
First, I am going to start out by calling out a realistic fake Spiaggia Trenino that is up on eBay right now. Fortunately for us, the buyer who bought this bag the first time it was listed and already returned it (with explanation to the seller of why it was fake, I might add) was kind enough to send in a ton of photos so that we can all learn from her experience. Thanks, Jo! Please note that I also double-checked all of Jo’s information against the real Foresta Trenino in my personal collection to verify its accuracy.
For starters, here are photos that Jo took of the fake Spiaggia Trenino when she received it:
Kind of scary how realistic it looks at first glance, right? Someone even went to the trouble to put a real ball chain and real tokidoki tags on it. Now, onto why it is fake.
Exhibit A: The fake Spiaggia Trenino does not have “riri M6″ stamped under the zipper head. The photos below show a side-by-side comparison of the underside of Jo’s real Pirata Trenino zipper heads (left) vs. the fake Spiaggia Trenino zipper heads (right).
Exhibit B: The fake Spiaggia Trenino is missing the Made in China tag in the large front zipper pocket, and has a solid black carabiner stretch cord instead of a black & white carabiner stretch cord. The photos below show a side-by-side comparison of the underside of Jo’s real Pirata Trenino’s “Made in China” tag and black & white carabiner stretch cord inside the large front zipper pocket (left) vs. the fake Spiaggia Trenino’s missing tag and solid black carabiner stretch cord (right).
Exhibit C: The fake Spiaggia Trenino has incorrect carabiner hardware in all 3 places on the bag - attached to the stretch cord, and attached to the long strap on both sides. The photos below show a side-by-side comparison of the underside of Jo’s real Pirata Trenino carabiner (left) vs. the fake Spiaggia Trenino zipper carabiner (right). Ignore the color differences (Pirata has gold hardware, Spiaggia has silver) and notice that the fake carabiner only has LeSportsac etched into one side (instead of both sides, like the real bag).
Exhibit D: And finally, the most compelling reason - the print is just not right on the fake Spiaggia Trenino. So that you can all see this better, I created swatches of the same section of the Spiaggia print from a real Spiaggia bag versus the fake Spiaggia Trenino.
Here is the real Spiaggia swatch:
And here is the fake Spiaggia swatch:
Keep looking at the real swatch vs. the fake swatch - you will notice that the colors in the fake swatch are off, AND that the way the characters in the fake swatch are drawn is not quite right (for instance, look back & forth at Bastardino - see the difference?), AND that the spatial relations between the characters in the fake swatch are not the same as in the real swatch (for instance, look how much higher the plane in the upper left is compared to the momo sun in the fake swatch, and how much lower shark boy is compared to where the inner tube girl’s feet are).
*huff* *puff*
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Did anyone notice this at the bottom of the fake bag ebay listing?:
“Due to it’s unique print, no bags are exactly the same. This bag is a relisting because the person who previously purchased it thought it was a knock off. I took it to the LeSportSac store at the Beverly Center, and they confirmed that it was actually an authentic bag. ”
Either the seller is lying or LeSportsac is hiring incompetent salespeople
However, the seller did eventually acknowledge it as a fake in the Q&A:
“The reverse side of the zipper pulley is plain, it does not say “riri” on it, which is why I posted on the listing that this item is probably a very good knock off rather than an authentic Tokidoki bag.”
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
… wow. that would be horrible if someone put out the money (i’ve seen $350+) for a Playground BV and it was fake. scary.
on another note: again, thank you for the code at The Giant Peach! i bought 6 items hahaha. a treat to myself for the winter and post-holiday blues
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:19 pm
As the seller of this fake bag, I have to say that I was having trouble proving it was fake to Paypal to get my money back from the original seller. They kept telling me it was real and made me feel bad about asking for a refund. The only way I found to get my money back was to sell it after getting the employees at LeSportSac to say that it was authentic. They saw that it didn’t have an inside made in China tag and they even saw it was a fake qee and chain. There really isn’t anyone who can help me authenticate this bag outside the internet and I don’t think Paypal will accept a website saying it’s fake.
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
dangster - Despite the fact that the seller finally admits the bag might be fake at the end of the auction, the top description that people are more likely to read still claims that it is “100% authentic” (also, I am sure that this bag won’t be the only one of its kind to hit eBay). And yeah, if that is true about the LeSportsac authentication, they really need to get on the ball!
Krisha - You’re welcome! I have ordered 6 spring 2008 items so far too (trying reeeeally hard not to increase that number some more).
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Liane - So you admit that you already knew the bag was fake when you first listed it, but yet you still listed it as being “100% authentic” even though you knew that wasn’t true.
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
No, I wasn’t sure it was fake. The buyer did not contact me with her reasons as to why it was fake until after I already re-listed the bag. I contacted her many time before asking her to explain why it was a knock off. I didn’t know it wasn’t 100% authentic or not, but that was just my own laziness for not editing the listing.
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
[…] UPDATE on Jan. 23, 2008: Fakes are getting more realistic! Please be sure to read this new tutorial on how to spot a convincing fake tokidoki bag. […]
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
You are amazing!! Thank you for being so thorough! This will help me so much and many others I’m sure =)
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Liane - In that case, you should have listed the bag as “50% chance of being authentic” rather than “100% authentic.”
abby - You’re welcome! Big thanks also to Jo for putting so much work into the photos and sending the alert to all of us!
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Liane- In that case once you found out you should have pulled the listing or corrected the site, thats not right! But thansk for being honest now.
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
In regards to the auction, I plan on letting it end as usual but I will inform the winning bidder of the fact that it’s a knock off. Then, I will give them the option of not having to purchase the bag. I already informed the 2 highest bidders of the information supporting it being a knock off and gave them the option of me canceling their bids.
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Hello, quick question. Does this only apply to those who bought LeSportsac Tokidoki bags from eBay or? I bought all of my bags from mainly Macys or Nordstroms on sale and haven’t had a chance to check them out yet. I’m at work right now w/my Spiaggia Bambino & I checked the caribiner & zippers and everything is legit, but there is no “Made in China” tag visible. Is that only found in the bigger bags or? Just wondering…
January 23rd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Never mind…I found it in the other side of the bag…whew!!!
January 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Thanks so much for this!
I was hoping it wouldn’t happen, but had too I guess!
January 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Wow. They ARE getting better. Thank you for keeping us updated and helping to point out which is which.
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Actually, Liane, if your auction is in progress right now, you may want to cancel it altogether and relist the bag with an accurate description. It will save you trouble in the long run if you’re an honest seller. Also call corporate LeSportsac and tell them about your suspicions regarding the bag’s (lack of) authenticity. I’m sure they could provide you with proof to get your $$$ back from paypal, and also may appreciate the info so they could slap whoever sold the bag to you with a “cease and desist” order. A retail sales rep my not know anything about authenticating the bag, but someone at corporate may be able to help.
January 23rd, 2008 at 7:41 pm
wow…that’s so scary O_O makes me afraid to buy ANY tokidoki bags anywhere…especially with the influx of scammers recently…
January 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
admin (steph) - oh actually i only ordered 2 things from the valentine’s day collection LOL sorry! i got the grey semi-striped t-shirt and the black short sleeve hoodie with adios and ciao ciao on the back. the other 4 items were last season stuff that my wallet wouldn’t let me get. but now they are on sale and i got 20% off that! :D!!!
January 24th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Glad my mistake will help others to spot fake tokidokis, especially now that they’re so realistic.
Liane - I completely agree with alesia60614 & delsey, you should have ended the auction and relist it with the correct info. That would have been the fair thing to do…now you’ve sold the KNOCK-OFF at a much higher price than you probably would have received if ALL the bidders knew from the BEGINNING that it is a FAKE. Also, after re-reading some of our correspondence, it seems you did know or at least had suspicions that it was a fake cause you said “I noticed that the chain and qee were not authentic” and (I assume) you switched them out before sending me the bag. This makes me question your intentions cause you’ve listed this bag TWICE and both times claiming it to be authentic when you had doubts from the very beginning!
January 24th, 2008 at 1:36 am
WOWWWWWW this is crazyy
Thanks for the post !
January 24th, 2008 at 2:12 am
I didn’t sell the bag for the price it ended at. I informed the winning bidder of the reasons as to why it is a knock off and we agreed to not complete the transaction. I informed the highest bidder several days ago about it not being authentic. I don’t think I will be re-listing the bag since I don’t think anyone is that interested in owning a knock off, no matter how close it is to an authentic bag.
January 24th, 2008 at 3:50 am
Oh, I almost bid on this because I would love a Spiaggia piece, but the news about the Hello Kitty items coming out in March in Japan which is when I am going made me stop.
But this is a good post because the parts about the zipper and more helped me verify that the Tutti bag I recently purchased on Ebay is authentic! Thank you.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:37 am
Scarrrryyy!!! Thanks to Steph and the reader for pointing out the new realistic fakes. I have been reporting obvious fakes to ebay whenever I have the time. I have pretty much made it my policy to purchase from her real tokidoki sellers list. A couple of them are trusted sellers and some even have a little higher price but I would rather pay that than get a fake bag!
January 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Yeah, I think the common denominator that all real Toki bags have is the riri zipper. I’m sure LSS has a contract with that manufacturer or something.
January 24th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I just discovered something: the “riri” on the zipper head may no longer be a sign of authenticity on Tokidoki Lesportsac bags.
I did a quick google search on “riri” and sure enough, the Riri zipper company has a website. And then I saw this:
http://www.ririzippers.com/zippers.htm
In the 2nd picture, there are 2 rainbow colored zippers! And it seems their zippers are available at stores and websites all over the US.
A lot of collectors by now realize that having the “riri” on the zipper is important. An unscrupulous counterfeiter may take advantage of this and start buying and using Riri zippers to make their goods appear “authentic”.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
dangster- riri zippers are used in other brand bags, too. i doubt anyone making counterfeit bags is going to go that far out of their way, though.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I agree that the fakers are not likely to go so far as using authentic riri zippers - I’m 99.9% sure they will all stick with their cheap imitations.
January 27th, 2008 at 7:10 am
About the zip with a ‘riri’ thing,I don’t really think it is a sign that tells us the bag is fake.I bought a Denaro wallet from a LeSportsac shop and my zip has ‘riri” words on it.
January 28th, 2008 at 1:43 am
rainie, I think you got it backwards
Colored zippers that DON’T have “riri” are definitely fake.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:29 am
I saw fake todidoki bag at the mall on Sunday. The bag is $17.99. It has “ProSports” on it. Pretty yucky.
January 28th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
What store carried the fake? Outing them will do a public service.
January 29th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Hey Steph, I also noticed something. WHile looking at a comparison of some of the newer realistic fakes (like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250211025 539) I noticed that the hardware of the Nana star studs on many fake bags (I dunno if all) are turned facing the zipper, while real bags have the nana’s “feet” facing out. I’m not really sure whether that’s for all bags, but on that Paradiso Gioco and a couple other bags that the other person had a listing for have the Nana stars facing feet in toward the zipper, and they should generally be faced in the same direction.
Another thing is that recently, my friend showed me a fake that her sister got in China with the happy flowers on the zippers: the zipper tab was too “thin” like, the depth of it was the thinness of a penny or a quarter? I just measured and the zipper tab should be exactly 1/8″ deep
January 29th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
*correction
While i looked at other bag designs, i realized that the leather parts for the extended zippers (like giocos, bocces,etc) have that. Otherwise Nana star studs are generally facing toward the ground.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:57 am
stinabitten:
you are right! This is definitely a fake! cuz the ball chain and the qee chain are also different from the authentic ones! This seller has many other “authentic” bags for auction, and ppl r actually bidding on them! I’m wondering if someone should report him/her…
January 30th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
This seller seems to have realistic fakes too!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250211316 271
Everything looks fine except for the skinny ball chain! She has another gioco which has a very very realistic Adios qee (never seen fake adios qees before) with a skinny ball chain but wron interior color (hot pink?!).
Let us know what you think!
January 30th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Delia - That seller earned a spot on the Fake tokidoki Sellers List a couple days ago. The bag in the link that you posted has many things wrong with it - the interior color is pink, but the correct Spiaggia interior color is yellow. The print is also wrong for the exact same reasons listed in Exhibit D of this post, the keyring on the qee is wrong (see my Guide to Fakes for more info), and of course, the skinny chain.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
hey it could be a LeSportsac sample. something they use in their showrooms before the bags go into actual production ….
February 9th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
teree - Not a chance. The bag is most definitely fake!
February 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Wow.. they now have fake Vacanze print bags. Beware… http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220203351 308 This bag comes complete with qee but the black “tokidoki for lesportsac” has a funny logo with it instead of the usual heart and cross bones. The ball chain also looks kinda skinny.
In a seperate auction, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220203352 912, this looks really scary real.. The ball chain, qee and ‘tokidoki for lesportsac’ words are correct. Maybe only the black ‘tokidoki for lesportsac’ words are wrong in these range of fakes. Nonetheless, buyers beware.. It looks so real!
February 18th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Good eye, Delia - that second auction is just not right! That does appear to be a real bag in the photo, but I am sure that the seller will pull a bait and switch and send a fake bag in its place.
February 19th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Yeah, I’m shocked. Even for this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250217678 807 it looks so real, but the stretch cord is wrong and if you look closely at the ‘tokidoki for lesportsac’ words, it doesn’t have the heart and cross bones, just some random ugly skull thing. Can’t believe it!
March 14th, 2008 at 2:25 am
picked up a bag from “Winners” turns out it was fake. zipper pull was fake. zipper colors were off. no made in china tag inside. beware
March 17th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
hi everyone!
Something about this bag seems off. Maybe its the color due to the camera? I can’t quite tell. It looks like it comes with a new Adios keychain too…I know Hawaii was doing a rerelease of Paradiso so maybe this is from Hawaii?
Either way…the color and size of the characters look a little funny to me. What do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110234439 632
March 17th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
kristi - That seller is on my List of eBay Users Who Sell Real tokidoki Bags & Clothes.
March 24th, 2008 at 5:44 am
I wish I’d seen this particular article sooner. I found a nice bag on ebay recently that I could have sworn was real at first glance. Unfortunately my excitement got the better of me & I bid before I checked out all of the seller’s items. My very “real” bag looked to be a very real fake or a real bag that would probably be switched out for a fake version. Luckily for me I caught on before the auction was over & reported the seller & the items to ebay. I’m swearing off ebay purchases & only buying the bags from legit sellers, such as Macy’s or the offical websites.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:03 am
NekoNeko - I am glad you figured out that the bag was fake in time! You can still shop on eBay with confidence if you use my Real tokidoki Sellers list. The tokidoki for LeSportsac collaboration ended in October 2007, so buying the older prints at stores like Macy’s is no longer an option right now.
March 26th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Hey, I just purchased this bag on eBay (yeah I hadn’t read about the real-looking fake ones yet.. ;_; ) and i am wondering wether or not it’s real. I haven’t seen it yet myself, but my mom just received it and checked it for me. The carabiner cord is black and white, the zippers all have riri on it, the tags are on, the quee is in its plastic bag, the interior (as on photos) is grey… Now, the listing says it’s a spring print?? Did they just make a mistake or is this a fake? My mom hasn’t found the Made in Chine tag anywhere.. but maybe she didn’t look well enough (damn it wish I could look at it myself)… I can only see it in two weeks, any way to know if it’s fake or real in spite of that? Is is possible it doesn’t have the made in china tag if it’s a real one? Or where is it supposed to be? In a different pocket than the main one? Please help!! I want to report it ASAP if it’s a fake ;_; although it is cute… Here: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3202269883 46
March 26th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
AoD-someone else can verify but I am fairly certain that your bag is real. Not sure why it says 2007 Spring bag but it came out in the winter of 2007 and the lining is suppose to be gray.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Oooh really? That’s reassuring if the inside is supposed to be gray! My mom still can’t find the tag though and that worries me…. Well, i’ll take a chance I guess and keep it. O_o It seems the tag is the only thing that’s not there. The rest fits perfectly with the real ones. Aah well, guess i’ll never know. ^-^ Thanks.
March 26th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
AoD - It’s real. Also, a fake bag would never be so subtle as having a missing Made in China as the ONLY thing wrong with it, and there is no such thing as a fake tokidoki bag with real riri zippers.
March 31st, 2008 at 10:32 am
I had no idea about Tokidoki bags, until I searched the internet to see what it was all about. It was a fun bag to carry books, and with two smaller bags inside, one for laptop, another for make-up. Now I see I bought a knock off at a city flea market, for $30 cdn. I like it. And, the vendor was surprised at how popular they were when I asked about the bag. I asked if it was from Japan? She imported it from Hong Kong.
Sorry, but I bought it because it was what I was looking for and fun. In no way is this an original Tokidoki bag. There is no way I’d buy and use an every day bag for $200 to $300 cdn. Sorry, and I am sorry for the artwork, creative work and hand craft rip off. Thanks for the info tho.
;0)
March 31st, 2008 at 12:12 pm
I don’t for de Fake tokidoki, untill I found this blog.
This Tokidki Blog turn my favorite, becouse
I can lear more about Tokidoki.
I love Tokidoki, but I don’t want ‘fake tokidokisss!….
Thank’s for the information ,
and I’ll tell to my friends of Japan about this blog.
thank you very much, & sorry for my English……
If anybody can speak spanish , please tell me….
From Japan
March 31st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Excuse me..
I say..
I did’nt know about the Fake tokidoki, untill….
…or didn’t knew…
April 1st, 2008 at 11:21 am
Cereza - You’re welcome, and I’m glad that you like this blog!
I can read Spanish too if you would prefer to write in Spanish.
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am
Muchas gracias, entedera mi Espanol?
Hoy he encontrado, pero no en la ebay, sino en Yahoo Aution
This is fake, I think so…yes I do!!! It’s fake!!
http://sg.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/i:Bag:%20TOKIDOKI%20CORRIERE %20CITTA%20ROSA%209523%20SHOULDER%20BAG:251467988
Now I am looking for courrier bag, there is nothing in any
online shop in Japan, so I were looking in the site of USA ,
y por casualidad encontre este falso bolso, que me da
asco!!!
sabe ud. donde puedo comprar la bolsa courrier
si fuera posible en Inferno print o Arancia??
El disenador Simono estara en Japon para firmar con
la disenadoa de Hello Kitty, lamentablemen yo vivo en Narita
y el evento se hara muy lejos de aqui…!!!!
Muchas gracias denuevo por tener en cuenta mi comentario.
April 2nd, 2008 at 11:54 am
Sí, que Corriere es falsificado. Corrieres son muy raro y son vendidos por todas partes.
April 10th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I found a new seller with 0 feedback selling a couple bags, the pics aren’t so great. What do y’all think?
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZhanxm1128
April 10th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
all Pics looks like stolen from some other people.. mailing from China ??? i wont want to waste my money on that… btw.. the account was made on March 2008..
April 13th, 2008 at 5:01 am
I think the seller stole the picture from the Tokidoki.it official web site, the transporto zucca picture looks exactly from the one on the official site…-_-
April 15th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
…: bt i still think its cute.
and besides as long as u av the design it dusnt matta if it fake or not. right?
April 15th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Hannah, designers are here for a reason…… and definitely not to allow others to steal their fruits of labour.
April 15th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
hannah, you should read up on why fakes are bad:
here for example.
“Fake purses are items that illegal manufacturers produce in order to pass the purses off as authentic.”
April 19th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Yeah!!! The fakes are here!!! Are they cheap? Now I don’t have to pay these jerks hundreds of dollars for a cheap piece of fabric sewn together by some poor sap in a sweatshop!
April 20th, 2008 at 3:41 am
akizora, unless you are just joking, then you are definitely posting in the wrong area. I totally suppose the real Tokidoki or for any other thing I buy out there. The artist took their time to drew it and made it possible for everyone to buy, if you going buy the fake one, then that’s not very supportitive. You won’t be happy if you made something and people made a copy of it and sell it when you have the original version of it.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:02 am
You have no idea how the fake fabric are made of.. what kind of chemical is involve.. altho its just ar regular frabic.. you have no clue how they handle it. once you find out its gonna be too late….
btw.. Fake bags does not have *manufacturer production Control*… which means its not approved or examine by anyone to prove its safety..
April 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Yargh. I’ve had a backpack I’ve been using for at least half a year now, my mom had got it for me and we’d both always thought it was real, she buys lots of Sportsac stuff but this was the first tokidoki one…just now found out it was a fake, reading this site.
I don’t know how much she paid for it, but she won’t be happy either. Didn’t think there was quite so much fake stuff out there back then, when I got it I hadn’t seen anyone else with any tokidoki stuff.
May 4th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
A seller on ebay is trying to convince me that she is selling a used authentic bag that does not have the riri engraving under the zipper head. She says not all bags do and she got it directly from the Lesportsac store.
Is it possible to have a real bag and not have the riri zipper. I thought that was the identifying mark.
Can you email me back at dana.sherman@cox.net and let me know so I can tell her.
Thanks.
May 11th, 2008 at 9:44 am
wow i was going to get my cuzn to buy me a bag on ebay. thank god i read this first. is there any other way to buy a takodaki bag (or other item) in sydney Australia by any chance?
can someone email me at mezmt_93@hotmail.com
much appreciated
May 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
akizora - fake products are also cheap pieces of fabric sewn together by poor saps in sweatshops.
i can understand the bitterness for the high prices for bags that are clearly not worth even a minor percentage of what we’re paying, but that’s the fashion industry, for you.
August 22nd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Thanks all for the valuable info! I bought one on ebay last night and then one today. One is from a reliable seller listed here and the other was the only thing the person was selling, but looking at the 11 pics they posted on the auction, along with the pics here, and all the information, it looks real (signature strap, style number and pattern listed, close ups of the zippers, chains, pulls, inside tag with metallic thread, plain zipper pull and plastic zipper in inside and correct interior color as the other page here lists this style). Thanks so much for this site and all the info!!
September 4th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
pretty sure this one is fake but seller swears it is real:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290258033 480&_trksid=p2761.l1259
September 4th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
LOL Stephanie fake or not (it’s definitely fake)…I doubt anyone is foolish enough to pay $85 for flat rate shipping and on top of that have to wait up to 21 days to get their (fake) item. Unbelievable!
September 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
help me report this fake:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300258025 044
September 16th, 2008 at 12:34 am
I think these bags are fake.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LeSportSac-by-Tokidoki-Bella-Style-95 20_W0QQitemZ270276310047QQihZ017QQcategoryZ63852QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LeSportSac-by-Tokidoki-Bambino-Style- 9506_W0QQitemZ270276310427QQihZ017QQcategoryZ63852QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/LeSportSac-by-Tokidoki-Bambino-Style- 9506_W0QQitemZ270276310653QQihZ017QQcategoryZ63852QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
September 16th, 2008 at 10:04 am
M&M - Yes, they are all fake.
September 19th, 2008 at 8:38 am
I only discovered on Wednesday that tokidoki is a brand (clearly i have been living in the dark ages). this summer i saw tokidoki type stuff on the markets at festivals, i think its super, but being poor couldn’t afford to buy anything. i see now that it was most likely all fake (i don’t remember seeing qees on any of the merch i was looking at). looking at the TD website and ebay i have to say, i’m not surprised the fakes are everywhere. perhaps if the TD stuff wasn’t so outrageously priced they wouldn’t fake it so much. i think its such a shame that this beautiful gear is out of reach for so many (me mainly) there is no way i would/could ever pay these prices, particularly knowing thats its all made in china meaning its costing TD pence to make!!! dont get me wrong, i’m not going to run out and buy the first fake piece i find just to spite TD, i just think that the price structure is WAY OFF! especially for chinese rubbish. maybe if they were made in Italy they would be worth half the price. come on - 60 euros for a wallet?!
November 6th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Has their been a release of fak concerto punk bags?
i hope not.
November 6th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Mari-
Not that I have seen. Only the org. LeSportsac Tokidoki bags. Those fakers better not ruin the new ones for us too!
November 7th, 2008 at 12:43 am
I’ve seen the fake of the new line of bags on ioffer.com. Buying from there is mostly replica.
November 7th, 2008 at 3:00 am
uh in case anyone noticed it that concerto line has LeSportSac on it haha and they don’t even collaborate with LeSportSac anymore o.o
November 7th, 2008 at 3:02 am
dar-
I have never seen ioffer.com before and… WOW is all I can say! Some of the old fakes really do look real. But the new prints are by a mile fake, hopefully it stays that way too.
November 8th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
tank-while I agree with you that alot of Tokidoki products have a high price point - I don’t think I would go as far as calling it “chinese rubbish.” Alot of high end items are made in china….which doesn’t necessarily mean that the quality is bad…I tend to think it’s more of a cheaper manufacturing issue (i.e. labor, warehousing costs).
Coach, as well as alot of other high priced brands, are made in China and their bags also have a high price point as well. With probably only 20% of the item being leather and the other 80% jacquard fabric. Your paying for the style/brand more than the materials to make the actual bag.
November 15th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Thanks so much for this, I don’t really have to worry though, I buy my tokidoki from macy’s!
$200 for one on sale, but it’s worth it!
December 6th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I love tokidoki, and even though I would never buy a fake tokidoki bag, I think it almost serves tokidoki - and other wildly expensive brands - right that their bags are counterfeited.
People today buy branded handbags because of what they represent; not what they truly are. The only thing that makes tokidoki bags unique from something you will find at a discount store is that the print it is covered with. The high price of authentic tokidoki bags is not compensated by good quality materials or handmade craftsmanship. Even though tokidoki is not a world reowned brand yet - which I sense it will become -, its carriers declare that they have enough money to blow on a single handbag that is equal to my monthly grocery bill and appreciate the kawaii design. The only distinguishable difference between the fake and real bags is “riri M6″ engraved into the back of the zipper pull. To consumers, that isn’t enough to dissuade them from buying a fake purse.
The counterfeiters in China saw this as an oppurtunity and began scanning the tokidoki prints, weaving fabric with the prints, and sewing the fabric into bags. Some even take 3-D scans of the bags, making perfect copies. Piracy has advanced incredibly over the years, and many fakes can pass as authentic and genuine nowadays.
For tokidoki to successfully eradicate copying of its designs, it should cut its price to make it more accessible to more people and make its designs more complex. The money-hungry executives at tokidoki should learn that their products are only copied because people find the price tags unacceptable.
December 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Bags are not copied because their prices are unacceptable. Bags are copied because the copiers see a way to fool people in to paying *them* a ton of money. People spend upwards of a hundred dollars on fakes, thinking that they are real, *not* because they think the fake is giving them a bargain.
It’s not like the counterfeiters are saying “Hey! Our bags are fake!” They’re saying “Hey! This is real! Give us $200 for it!”
Counterfeiters are not Robin Hoods trying to give price breaks to the general masses. Counterfeiters are out to fool people and steal their money.
December 7th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
The people who sell replica tokidoki bags online usually sell on ioffer.com or have their own online stores. Usually all of these bags are listed as copies, and are sold for realistic prices.
Counterfeiters used to sell their bags on ebay and labeled them as authentic ones. However, consumers are getting more and more eduacated about the difference between the real and fake merchandise; so the people in China know that if they sell a fake tokidoki bag on ebay, they will have to pay the buyer back. It is also illegal to sell counterfeit items on ebay.
In the big counterfeit markets, like Canal Street in New York City, you can find every style of tokidoki bag immagineable for around $40. Everyone knows they are not authentic. What I meant was counterfeiters make replica tokidoki bags because they know they can make a killing selling them discount to the masses who want the logo covered handbags but can’t exactly afford them.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Fake tokidoki bags can be found all over the markets for 10 pounds british sterling (about $15). They are labeled either Prosportsac, or Le sportsac or La sportsac. They don’t try to pretend and rip off the public. The ink may run or zippers may break or may not last, but it was fun to get one. I have had original LeSportsac bags since the mid 1980’s. Black of course. Handbag, travel bags, key chain bag etc. But I swear by them. The quality of the original is good. some of my LeSportsac bags have lasted me over 20 years. My advice don’t buy online unless you use the original web sites, otherwise go to the market and buy a fake (knock-off) as a fake.